Video - Dog Hunting for Deer in N Florida

[EBOutdoors]

After a lot of requests, we're excited to bring everyone a new EBOutdoors video... Dog Hunting for Deer in North Florida!
This is our first time filming a dog hunt so we hope you enjoy the content. Let us know what you think and if there's anything you'd like to see in our upcoming videos.

 

[Native Hunter]

Welcome. I'm fine with any legal hunting, and I know that the use of dogs is allowed in Florida if certain requirements are met.

But, there is one thing I have wondered about, and maybe you can answer my question - how do you keep the dogs from entering property where you don't have permission to be? Also, have your dogs ever entered property where you didn't have permission to hunt?

Thanks in advance....

 

[lakngolf]

1. Hey I'm just here to retrieve my dogs, They are not bothering anything
2. Yes

 

[FL Plotter]

I wish they would outlaw it. Not really hunting in my opinion. To hear the dogs running in the distance when I'm still hunting makes me angry.

 

[buckdeer1]

Causes alot of fights up in NE from what i hear.I guess i don't have an issue as long as they stay on their own land but I doubt if that happens.I am sure there would be an issue if I caught them on mine

 

[dogghr]

Climbing up on slippery cab of truck with loaded gun and running down bumpy road with loaded gun at you feet. Def law break in my state, Fl must be diff. Can't even have hand on truck or ATV with loaded gun even if not chambered in this state.
My good friend hunted with dogs when he was in the south and we always had disagreement, just not my cup of tee. Can't figure why it takes 6 people and 3 trucks with radios to dogs and hunters just to keep it interesting while trying to head off a deer in a vehicle.
I deal with the same here with some of the bear hunters. All the land belongs to them boundaries make no diff especially while training them.
And how can one trash a predator that is just doing its job yet a hunter uses a descendant of the same to get his deer. I just don't get it. But if its legal so be it.

 

[Drycreek]

This topic stirs up quite a debate/disagreement. As for me, I really don't have a dog in this fight. I used to hunt in a National Forest in ETexas where dog hunting was fairly common, though strictly illegal. A preacher, yep, a preacher, would hunt in the same area I hunted from time to time. I can't recall them ever killing a deer in front of the dogs although I was once the beneficiary of such a hunt. I muffed it though, waiting for the buck to take a couple more steps to clear some vines. He did, straight away and at a high rate of speed.

I think running deer is now illegal in all counties in Texas. Now all we have to contend with is hog doggers, and they are due to start any day now. IMO, the illegal deer doggers were a much more polite set of folks. Most all the hog doggers are arrogant and seem to think they are doing you a favor.

 

[PineSapJunky]

I've seen it both ways. Here in Mississippi it is a tradition that is slowly dying out. I don't have a problem with it as long as they running on their own big chunks or land (5k+ acres) or on National Forest. My problem is the guy who has permission to hunt 40 acres running deer. It causes quite a stir. It is legal for someone to enter your posted property simply to retrieve their hunting do WITHOUT PERMISSION!!. Nevermind when they go in or where and how. It's beyond frustrating. I understand why dog hunting was once popular. There were no deer in these parts until pines started being planted. To see a deer track was a big thing much less kill one. Thus came the tradition of riding the roads looking for a track to turn out on. Now a days you don't have to do that. Deer are fairly common and are easy enough to kill. I wish you had to buy a special license and have to have a certain amount of property to run dogs. Or at least have stiffer penalties if you or your dog trespasses

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[EBOutdoors]

Welcome. I'm fine with any legal hunting, and I know that the use of dogs is allowed in Florida if certain requirements are met.

But, there is one thing I have wondered about, and maybe you can answer my question - how do you keep the dogs from entering property where you don't have permission to be? Also, have your dogs ever entered property where you didn't have permission to hunt?

Thanks in advance....

Hi Native Hunter and thank you for the warm welcome! We've been very fortunate to have never had our dogs leave the property. We hunt on many thousands of acres, so its unlikely our dogs will have an opportunity to approach the property line without us having enough time to call them off. Also, unlike many dog hunters who keep their dogs kenneled most of the year without much training, we dedicate a lot of time and resources to training our pups and interact and exercise with them daily. A lot of people have the mentality that if you treat your dogs like house pets it ruins their hunting skills... total nonsense!

 

[EBOutdoors]

I wish they would outlaw it. Not really hunting in my opinion. To hear the dogs running in the distance when I'm still hunting makes me angry.

Hi FL Plotter, sorry to hear you're not a fan of the sport. I can certainly understand how noise from one hunt interfering with yours would be aggravating. Appreciate you sharing your thoughts though!

 

[EBOutdoors]

Causes alot of fights up in NE from what i hear.I guess i don't have an issue as long as they stay on their own land but I doubt if that happens.I am sure there would be an issue if I caught them on mine

Hi buckdeer1! Never been hunting in NE but in Florida there's still a pretty large dog hunting community. But we hunt on several thousand acres with only other dog hunters so it's never been a issue for us. You mainly hunt deer or other game too?

 

[EBOutdoors]

Climbing up on slippery cab of truck with loaded gun and running down bumpy road with loaded gun at you feet. Def law break in my state, Fl must be diff. Can't even have hand on truck or ATV with loaded gun even if not chambered in this state.
My good friend hunted with dogs when he was in the south and we always had disagreement, just not my cup of tee. Can't figure why it takes 6 people and 3 trucks with radios to dogs and hunters just to keep it interesting while trying to head off a deer in a vehicle.
I deal with the same here with some of the bear hunters. All the land belongs to them boundaries make no diff especially while training them.
And how can one trash a predator that is just doing its job yet a hunter uses a descendant of the same to get his deer. I just don't get it. But if its legal so be it.

Hi dogghr, thanks for sharing your opinion! While we enjoy different hunting practices we also appreciate learning what other hunters around the country think.

 

[EBOutdoors]

This topic stirs up quite a debate/disagreement. As for me, I really don't have a dog in this fight. I used to hunt in a National Forest in ETexas where dog hunting was fairly common, though strictly illegal. A preacher, yep, a preacher, would hunt in the same area I hunted from time to time. I can't recall them ever killing a deer in front of the dogs although I was once the beneficiary of such a hunt. I muffed it though, wating for the buck to take a couple more steps to clear some vines. He did, straight away and at a high rate of speed.

I think running deer is now illegal in all counties in Texas. Now all we have to contend with is hog doggers, and they are due to start any day now. IMO, the illegal deer doggers were a much more polite set of folks. Most all the hog doggers are arrogant and seem to think they are doing you a favor.

Hi Drycreek, you're right about the disagreement part! (*Wipes brow*) But that's what's great about hunting, there are many different practices and something to be learned from all of them. Thank you for acknowledging one hunter's preferences even though they might not align with yours.

Would love to see what ETexas hunting is like! We've got family NE of San Antonio and the racks on their bucks put our FL bucks to shame.

 

[EBOutdoors]

I've seen it both ways. Here in Mississippi it is a tradition that is slowly dying out. I don't have a problem with it as long as they running on their own big chunks or land (5k+ acres) or on National Forest. My problem is the guy who has permission to hunt 40 acres running deer. It causes quite a stir. It is legal for someone to enter your posted property simply to retrieve their hunting do WITHOUT PERMISSION!!. Nevermind when they go in or where and how. It's beyond frustrating. I understand why dog hunting was once popular. There were no deer in these parts until pines started being planted. To see a deer track was a big thing much less kill one. Thus came the tradition of riding the roads looking for a track to turn out on. Now a days you don't have to do that. Deer are fairly common and are easy enough to kill. I wish you had to buy a special license and have to have a certain amount of property to run dogs. Or at least have stiffer penalties if you or your dog trespasses

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Hi PineSapJunky, couldn't agree more! We run our dogs on thousands of acres of private land so we don't much have to worry about encroaching on other's property. I can see how that would create a major conflict. Also agree with regulations and ensuring everyone plays by the rules. Respect the animals, respect the tradition and respect your neighbors.. everyone goes home happy.

 

[Shufigo]

Well, you've certainly hit a hot button for the guys hunting in eastern Virginia. The whole issue's been gone over so many times there aren't many areas that haven't been put a hunter on one side of the fence or another. The doggers have tradition, camaraderie and the law on their side. In VA it's legal to go onto anyone's land to retrieve your hunting dog (right to retrieve). And dogs don't read property lines worth a hoot. As a hunter with a small patch of his own land, it really grinds my jaws when a pack busts through my stand. That being said, I've been a guest on a number of dog hunts and there's an unmistakeable thrill to hear a hot running chase headed straight at you. And once the deer go nocturnal after the rut, it's one of the few real chances of seeing a large, old buck. Then there's the fellowship of all the hunters gathering at the end of the day around the club house, cleaning the deer, swapping stories, etc. I'm on the still hunter side of the fence, but not by very much. The doggers around here have cleaned up their act about running dogs before open season (our archery time) and abandoning or shooting non-performing dogs. Some are even reaching out to establish communication before entering property to retrieve - waiting until I'm finished with my hunt. So, it'll never be perfect for either side - - but if both sides WORK AT harmony, we can get along.

 

[Kabic]

I never have dog hunted like that but would like to try it someday.

Having dogs trespass on your property would suck, glad to here you have a big enough chunk of land where that is not an issue fo you.

 

[EBOutdoors]

Well, you've certainly hit a hot button for the guys hunting in eastern Virginia. The whole issue's been gone over so many times there aren't many areas that haven't been put a hunter on one side of the fence or another. The doggers have tradition, camaraderie and the law on their side. In VA it's legal to go onto anyone's land to retrieve your hunting dog (right to retrieve). And dogs don't read property lines worth a hoot. As a hunter with a small patch of his own land, it really grinds my jaws when a pack busts through my stand. That being said, I've been a guest on a number of dog hunts and there's an unmistakeable thrill to hear a hot running chase headed straight at you. And once the deer go nocturnal after the rut, it's one of the few real chances of seeing a large, old buck. Then there's the fellowship of all the hunters gathering at the end of the day around the club house, cleaning the deer, swapping stories, etc. I'm on the still hunter side of the fence, but not by very much. The doggers around here have cleaned up their act about running dogs before open season (our archery time) and abandoning or shooting non-performing dogs. Some are even reaching out to establish communication before entering property to retrieve - waiting until I'm finished with my hunt. So, it'll never be perfect for either side - - but if both sides WORK AT harmony, we can get along.

Hey Shufigo, you certainly hit the nail on the head! We fully respect everyone's views and opinions on hunting practices, but it's nice to have a 'neutral' party recognize both sides. The fellowship you mention is a big part of what makes it all so special and a tradition worth preserving. Our group is like family and sitting fire side after running dogs all day, sharing a meal and stories is equally as enjoyable as the hunt. Glad to hear the doggers around you have cleaned up their acts! It only works if everyone respects the sport, including their fellow hunters.

 

[EBOutdoors]

I never have dog hunted like that but would like to try it someday.

Having dogs trespass on your property would suck, glad to here you have a big enough chunk of land where that is not an issue fo you.

Hi there Kabic, thanks very much for watching. It's a different way of hunting but we sure enjoy it! Definitely try it if you ever get the chance!

 

[Native Hunter]

Hi Native Hunter and thank you for the warm welcome! We've been very fortunate to have never had our dogs leave the property. We hunt on many thousands of acres, so its unlikely our dogs will have an opportunity to approach the property line without us having enough time to call them off. Also, unlike many dog hunters who keep their dogs kenneled most of the year without much training, we dedicate a lot of time and resources to training our pups and interact and exercise with them daily. A lot of people have the mentality that if you treat your dogs like house pets it ruins their hunting skills... total nonsense!

I'm glad to hear this. You seem like a nice guy, so I would challenge you to use your influence with other dog hunters in getting them to see the issues that trespassing and lack of respect cause. All types of hunting will continue to be a target of the left wing, so hunters need to band together as a solid group - all hunters....

I wouldn't enjoy your type of hunting a bit, but if you do enjoy it and respect property rights of other hunters, I have no problem with it. But let me say that there is a fine line here - an occasional mistake or flub up is not acceptable to me. For it to be acceptable, it has to be 100% of the time. Otherwise, instead of your best friend, I am your bitter enemy and worst nightmare.

Best wishes.

 

[EBOutdoors]

I'm glad to hear this. You seem like a nice guy, so I would challenge you to use your influence with other dog hunters in getting them to see the issues that trespassing and lack of respect cause. All types of hunting will continue to be a target of the left wing, so hunters need to band together as a solid group - all hunters....

I wouldn't enjoy your type of hunting a bit, but if you do enjoy it and respect property rights of other hunters, I have no problem with it. But let me say that there is a fine line here - an occasional mistake or flub up is not acceptable to me. For it to be acceptable, it has to be 100% of the time. Otherwise, instead of your best friend, I am your bitter enemy and worst nightmare.

Best wishes.

I appreciate your words and do hope to have a positive influence on the dog hunting community. We catch enough grief as hunters as it is, no need to cause rifts within.