Foodplotting In The Mountains...The Sequel

Too hot to hunt at 85 deg. But hey just can't pass opening day. So went this evening. Watching bunch of does munching on acorns and staying later than usual. Suddenly one of the fawns spooked and took off. Yep my momma and 3 cubs came rolling up the hill. Forgot my pistol and made for a bit puckered walk out in the dark since they really just stayed hanging around. Cute little things. Odd, adult deer pay no attention to them but fawns don't hang around. Don't blame them.
Thank the man who invented Thermalcell.
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One thing for sure, the deer were bedding in one of my new Ramdom Clusters I made this summer. Sits back and to left if this pic. Can't see it in this pic. The deer also followed the hinge sidewalk I made toward stand I've showed in previous posts. Gotta thank Steve B for that idea. This pic facing entrance to my alfalfa plot, what's left of it. Drought has killed everything in fields and woods. At least moderate acorn crop this year for deer.
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that's a pretty bow.
Thanks, it's one of the best recurves I've had. Smooth and accurate. My 2 practice arrow routine this summer has allowed me to keep shoulder healthy. Good to be back in stand with it. I need to drop back below 50# but hate to spend money on new limbs. Maybe few more years with this. I'll still hunt compound when Nov comes probably.
 
That's a nice bow - who made it?
Early season is tough. My wife bought a new thermacell and I have to get it out of the package to try and figure out how to use it...

Good luck to you!
 
I know it feels good to be in the stand. But hot weather is tough to deal with. Early bow season for me--I get to the stand, up the ladder, sit down, and hope the deer can't smell sweat.
 
dogghr...Great pic from the stand. Went may years never missing opening day but this year...whew!!! It's just been too hot down here. 94 on Saturday and Sunday. Cooler temps on the way this week so hopefully, I will have a sit come Saturday morning.
 
Leaving house tonight could it be????? Yes rain. Really enjoyed the 10 min shower before sun came back out. I'm sure that salvaged the plots. Sorry for the sarcasm. Cool double bow from ground to ground. Enjoyed it tho as a Promise is a promise tho if you know my point.
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That's a nice bow - who made it?
Early season is tough. My wife bought a new thermacell and I have to get it out of the package to try and figure out how to use it...

Good luck to you!
Yea guys it has been hot. Major cool down with high temps in 50s by Fri. May make for good hunt. I honestly went hunting since despite the heat, it was a NW wind with a front coming in next day. Deer were def moving, but bucks still laying low. Acorns falling so they are scattered coming into the plots.
As for the bow it is a Great Plains. I've been pleased with it. With high tech strings, graphite arrows, amazing broad heads, not the bow of old for sure. I still shoot off shelf, but have used rests in past. I also use a finger tab. I have used gloves and no glove string in past. The silencers are beaver fur. I still use brush protectors on string since I will still hunt at times. It plopped 2 arrows on the bull from 30 yards before I went hunting Sat., but hitting target not the same as a deer of course. My stands for recurve are set for a 15-20 yd shot, never would do further these days. As some of you know, its is very enjoyable and addicting hobby. Something about the simplicity of no sights, no mechanics, just you and the bow. And on the ground is as one with the deer as a hunt can be. Like my Mattews, but love the recurve.
Sorry about the gigantic rainbow shot. New upgrade on phone and I'm not used to options quite yet. Thanks for reading, not much to show for plots this year, they are pretty dry and over browsed. Deer on them always still. Nature dealt a rough hand of cards and just time to adjust accordingly.
 
When you choose your Dr, be very picky about them. Not how good they are, but how close they are to a good resturant to eat after you are poked and bled.

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Since finished early with doc and breakfast I ran to farm quick before work. This time of year always make scrape line. Simple enough just make sure have licking branch 5 feet off ground, kick out 3 ft circle, then pee n it. You will have pics next day. The other thing I've done is rub my forehead on licking branch. They like that too. I think just similar scent as their preorbital glands. I make 3- 6 scrapes over 50-100 yds. Last year had shooter buck on one I made at stand just few min prior. Cool to watch him.

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Have a trump card. WR and WW and RC can be overaeeded into Nov with great results. Overseeded this overbrowsed, drought limited brassica plot last week. You can see the green coming on. Don't leave soil bare.

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Pics of the annual highlands tour....they ROCK!
Thanks Doug. I'd like to take you and Native into those areas. You guys knowledge of plants would go into overload in that native landscape. You brought up a very important point somewhere on another thread that I want to address. You pointed out with our change in weather, that it requires change in our planting dates.
That is so true. My dates have gradually changed, as well as the seeds I choose to plant, over the last half dozen years. Our weather is def in turmoil for whatever reason, and a later plant date, and not being so hardheaded on choice of plots, allows us to get better results for foodplots. I think I have placed my last Aug planting this year. I am tired of waiting on weather to come then and just easier to count on cooler weather, more apt to rain, and heavier dews that help give germination we need if planting done 3-6 weeks later. Just like playing any game, need to be flexible.
Old farmer saying, " you are always only 7 days from a drought", and if you watch, that can prove so true. Plant accordingly.
I promise I'll figure out the pic size options with this new Iphone update. Wow, gonna max out the system.
 
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It's not easy to get rainbows to show in a photo.

Your subject matter and composition in your partially chewed breakfast shot overwhelms me.

Good luck on the hunt.

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Love the rainbow pic, we are surely not having any epic flooding:eek:
Odd part of our drought, we did have epic flooding in June with 20 inches of rain. Just unreal how quick wind and sun and heat takes its toll on plants. We have gotten some showers this week and that along with cooler temps, my plots are rebounding. With acorns dropping, deer should back off plots a little and I can enter hunting season in good shape.

Hunted this evening after work. Dead quite with showers so I still hunted front of properly near Random Cluster #1. Sneaked to within 15-30 yards on about 12 different deer and a then a nice 6 pt. Took no shots with the recurve but had great time. Watched a fawn come bleating to her momma and it and its twin sucked the teats for a minute. Just a cool evening in the woods. Usually don't still hunt this early in the season, but it was just so perfect.
 
Well it's a foodplotting thread, but hey, if foodplots are mainly browsed to the dirt, what can you show? God did give me an INCH of rain last week!!! :rolleyes: So glad I played my hand and overseeded everything with WR,WW,RC. Checked today and the plots were making a slow comeback. Acorns dropping and deer are back off the plots a little, but they still love that clover candy. Adjacent farmer still has 30 ac in corn so I'm sure my buck crowd won't roll in till that is gone. Have two 8 pt shooters this year but slim pics so far on anything else. Two evening hunts with doe and fawns and some non shooter 4-6 pts. Watched the 6 work my scrape and then rub a tree for about 5 min Fri. Temp drops this week so may hunt a little. Still tend to not hunt my property till late Oct and let the deer move in from surrounding pressure.

So plots don't like drought? Then figure out what nature does to survive. Didn't stop the native grasses and flowers from doing there stuff. Gotta love the fallow fields. I do nothing but watch them plant themselves with browse and cover. Occassionally will mow in late summer. Can you put this stuff in a bag to plant? No need to, God already did. I think I have learned more in the last 3 years of dry weather than all the knee deep plots successes I have had in the past. Poor soil, poor moisture, great growth. Now how to apply that to our foodplotting?

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Is education possibly a process of trading awareness for things of lesser worth? The goose who trades his is soon a pile of feathers. ---Aldo Leopold


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Outstanding update, stories and pics. Bill makes a beautiful bow. I got to know him from all the traditional archery shows & shoots I used to do when I was running the magazine. Excellent pic of the rainbows, reminding us of the promise all these years later.
 
I think I have learned more in the last 3 years of dry weather than all the knee deep plots successes I have had in the past. Poor soil, poor moisture, great growth. Now how to apply that to our foodplotting?

To a degree you can mimic that by managing for true soil tilth, proper residue cover, minimal disturbance, and seed diversity to prompt soil biology diversity....then on the other hand you can't because you are dealing with seeds whose parents have been so far removed from their native ancestors that breeding for yield has reduced resilience under stress. Savvy?

The other pitfall of plotting is that mainly C3 plants are recommended...and C3s are way less efficient at building soil carbon and soil health than C4 plants. This can give a false sense of soil health and a slow rate of soil build. Savvy?

C3 and C4 describe two photosynthetic pathways...read more about them....and take time to understand importance of C4 plants to soil.

I will paraphrase a quote from Walt Davis about native plant quality, "The forage plant which reaches full maturity well before the end of the growing season, offers little nutritional value to the animal." Goes back to what I told you during the visit....getting the diversity is the first step and fairly easy....using growing season disturbance to extend forage nutritive value for the animal over the whole growing season is a bit more challenging. That is another aspect which current wildlife management has failed to address. Do you prefer stale bread or a fresh loaf? Savvy?

It is not rocket science...if the animals are not full every day, then they will not perform to near potential.....if they are not getting full, then figure out why and change something tomorrow to make it better! Animal fill never lies...it is a true picture of what is going on...RIGHT NOW!
 
No hunting in my county on Sundays, so off to the mountains and its trout streams we went. Have you paid attention to your land and how it is affected by drought and/or monsoon thruout this year? Have you reached down and felt the earth with your hands, dug beneath its thatch, smelled the dirt? Have you watched nature in its actions to grow her food plots whether in dry or whether in wet? Did you think thru how you can apply this to your own land, to your forests, to your creeks, to your plots, to conserve or control moisture as she does? Have you seen how she responds to her own failings thru actions of the land? Can you apply it to your own future management? If not, while waiting on that buck, think these things, and devise a plan to mimic her.

Here lies headwaters of a massive watershed at the Eastern Continental Divide. Do the ferns as they enter into their autumn gold serve a purpose? Why now, do they shut down their life? Did they build soil this year? Are they still building such? Are they the preemptor of better food to come? Does your land have ferns?

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A thick soil mass several feet deep acting as a sponge in wet or dry. A landscape that never shows bare soil, or if fire delivers such, then she quickly covers it. Does your land show bare at times? And for how long and how often? Is there a diversity in your forests, your creek bottoms, your plots? Or do you fight nature for that picture of monoculture , and wonder its shortcomings, and costs, and sweat equity.?

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Does your ground absorb or repel water? Are their mosses thriving on you land? Is water retention more than building a pond? How can you change the habitat to allow nature do her thing?

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Does the beaver cry when drought comes? Does he pout when monsoons soak him? Or does he prepare for each, and ready to survive the curve balls of weather? Does he prepare for the good and the bad, the bounty and the famine?

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How does nature preserve its moisture? How does she survive and return in all her glory just months after inundated by waters that roared 20 feet deep in this stream? Can your soils look the same after such an attack? How can you make them achieve such? Is it by cutting, or planting, or manipulating, or doing nothing? Which is best? Have you looked close at your land and thot these thots?

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What path will you choose? What path should you choose? Where will you be tomorrow? Where will your land be tomorrow? Will it mimic nature long after you are gone, or will it be struggling to recover the results of you actions?
Just some thots for you to ponder as you hunt this season. Put away your phone, look, listen, smell, feel what she teaches. Not all the answers are on the internet. Enjoy. Peace.

"The government tells us we need flood control and comes to straighten the creek in our pasture. The engineer on the job tells us the creek is now able to carry off more flood water, but in the process we have lost our old willows where the owl hooted on a winter night and under which the cows switched flies in the noon shade. We lost the little marshy spot where our fringed gentians bloomed." ----Aldo Leopold

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