Persimmons...how do I love thee...let me count the ways.....

[RGrizzzz]

@Native Hunter , I know you're a big advocate of persimmons. I collected a bunch of persimmons from the John Hershey plantings in Downingtown, PA this fall and harvested the seeds. If you're interested, I can send you a bunch.

John W. Hershey – (paconservationheritage.org)

 

[Native Hunter]

@Native Hunter , I know you're a big advocate of persimmons. I collected a bunch of persimmons from the John Hershey plantings in Downingtown, PA this fall and harvested the seeds. If you're interested, I can send you a bunch.

John W. Hershey – (paconservationheritage.org)

Thanks so much Rgrizzzz for that offer. I probably don’t need any seed, but I’m always looking for different scion wood since we have lots of native seedlings to topwork. If you have any good scion wood from them at some point in the future, I would like that.

 

[KSQ2]

Got a dozen persimmons ordered for next March. A couple grafted and 10 common seedlings. Watering trees this year kicked my tail, so that’s all I’m going to plant this-coming year, except for a couple of those funky dogwoods you put me on Native.

 

[Native Hunter]

I went through this old thread and fixed all of the broken picture links.

Below is a pic of a small native persimmon grove I’ve been watching a couple of years. Today I was able to find female flowers on these so no topworking will be required.

PS - If anyone needs to see the difference between male and female flowers you can look back at Post #91 on page 5 and Post #155 on Page 8.

 

[NoviceTreeGuy]

So I ordered a couple grafted female persimmon trees from blue hill nursery, they are planted and only 18” tall and leafed out,

How many years will it be until I can expect persimmons?

Can I transplant them to a better location this fall after they go dormant?

 

[Native Hunter]

So I ordered a couple grafted female persimmon trees from blue hill nursery, they are planted and only 18” tall and leafed out,

How many years will it be until I can expect persimmons?

Can I transplant them to a better location this fall after they go dormant?

I would recommend asking Blue Hill those questions via an email since you bought the trees from them.

The only ones I have ever dug up and moved to another location are sprouts near the base of native trees. I get a huge root wad of dirt when I do this, which you will not be able to do when transplanting a tree that has been set a short time.

Grafted persimmon trees can bear fruit in just a couple of years, but I don't recommend letting them do that. I feel that they need to be putting their energy into growing roots for a long time before allowing any fruit production. My observations are that persimmon trees are more fragile than apple trees when young, but once Persimmons get established roots, they are like the Sherman Tank of the fruit world.

 

[g squared 23]

Persimmon grafts are waking up. And the ticks are out!!

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[Native Hunter]

Persimmon grafts are waking up. And the ticks are out!!

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Looks like our persimmon grafts are twins, but I forgot to take a pic of my tick.

 

[KSQ2]

Anxiously awaiting the native persimmons getting a foothold at the Massey — the bucks are awfully hard on them in the fall. I’m sure most will be male knowing my luck with them, but I’ll be you fellas’ lead with grafting. The buying of grafted females was an absolute failure. The nursery told me transplanting bareroot persimmons was a tough task and the success rate is not good. But ordering them in 3 gallon containers was not feasible for us.

 

[KSQ2]

A question for the experts: I ordered American persimmon seedlings from Wildlife Group last year and had a heck of a time keeping them alive with the drought, but they greened up initially at a 100% rate. The grafted females I ordered didn't ever even put on a single bud -- I explained that in the post above and was the first time I've been disappointed with anything from Wildlife Group. What would be the possibility of success with placing the ordered bareroot seedlings in one gallon rootmakers, them transplanting them into 3 gallons and planting the following year? Has anyone ever tried this? I know transplanting native grown persimmons, out of the ground, is almost an impossible task, what about root-pruning though? Would that hurt their ability to sink a tap root after putting them in the ground? I'm toying with the idea of ordering some seedlings along with my order from Blue Hill next fall. I already have all of the stuff I need to do this because of my failure with chestnuts this year.